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Breathing Wind
28: Hope
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28: Hope

Is there hope in grief?

"You know, this is not just an emotional experience, but a physical one, often a spiritual one, to explore those aspects of what is changed in you when grieving and then to start to take stock of resilience and find that hope together, I think those are the values of grief counseling."

Christine Kovach

This episode is part of a Breathing Wind miniseries titled Transforming Grief, hosted by Wendy Rolón. The Transforming Grief miniseries explores what we can do as humans to embrace grief as a tool for growth.


In this episode, Wendy talks with Christine Kovach, LCSW, a bereavement counselor with Mission Hospice in San Mateo, CA, about grief counseling, healing through expressive arts, and the hope she sees in her work. Christine is an adjunct faculty member of Berkeley City College and also has a small private counseling practice in Alameda, California. Having started her career in hospice care in the early 1990s, Christine specializes in grief and loss, and in supporting those who are facing serious illness and those grappling with the challenges of caregiving. She facilitates a variety of grief support groups and employs expressive arts in the service of healing, finding meaning, and fostering resilience. For the past five years, she has co-facilitated the Alameda Death Café discussion salon.


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Christine and Wendy talk about:

  • Grief in modern culture

  • Grief counseling and benefits for grievers

  • How death can teach us how to live more fully

  • Expressive arts as a way to work with grief

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Breathing Wind Podcast
Breathing Wind
Breathing Wind is a podcast about grief and loss and how we journey with these lifelong companions.
Naila Francis, grief coach, writer and former journalist and Sarah Davis, podcast consultant, speaker and writer, are cohosts. We offer warm, honest and insightful conversations for the introspective at heart.
Launched in 2019 as a personal grief project, the podcast struck a chord with listeners looking for a space to feel less alone in their grief. Quickly, a dedicated community grew around the candid and compelling conversations with others who knew grief just as intimately and those who offered guidance for navigating this universal human experience.
In its three seasons of publishing monthly episodes, Breathing Wind has become a trusted space to explore who we become and how we make meaning in the midst of our post-loss lives. It's also the place where joy, laughter, wonder and possibility co-exist alongside deep heartbreak.
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