Breathing Wind Podcast
Breathing Wind
13: The Space to be Messy
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13: The Space to be Messy

How can we stay connected?

It is no accident that my relationship to my mom has gotten a lot better in the last few years because I have people in my life with whom I can talk about her freely and like, make sense and meaning out of not only her death, but her life.... We don't grieve alone and we never have. And we don't have to in this moment.


Grief is at an unprecedented level during Covid-19 and yet we are losing the normal in-person ways we grieve. How can we stay connected? Lennon Flowers is the co-founder of The Dinner Party, a platform for connecting mostly 20 and 30 somethings, as well as early 40 somethings, people who are often among the first in their peer community to experience a loss. In this episode, Lennon and I have a discussion about authentic conversations and creating spaces, virtual and in-person, that help people dealing with loss.

Lennon talks about:

  • The format of The Dinner Party and the role of the host

  • Modeling vulnerability and encouraging authentic conversation, even in online spaces

  • The paradox of grief in this moment of Covid-19: Both heartbreak and hope can coexist


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Breathing Wind Podcast
Breathing Wind
Breathing Wind is a podcast about grief and loss and how we journey with these lifelong companions.
Naila Francis, grief coach, writer and former journalist and Sarah Davis, podcast consultant, speaker and writer, are cohosts. We offer warm, honest and insightful conversations for the introspective at heart.
Launched in 2019 as a personal grief project, the podcast struck a chord with listeners looking for a space to feel less alone in their grief. Quickly, a dedicated community grew around the candid and compelling conversations with others who knew grief just as intimately and those who offered guidance for navigating this universal human experience.
In its three seasons of publishing monthly episodes, Breathing Wind has become a trusted space to explore who we become and how we make meaning in the midst of our post-loss lives. It's also the place where joy, laughter, wonder and possibility co-exist alongside deep heartbreak.
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